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. igor, back to more serious stuff we ought to be talking about. so john boehner is saying hey we can have -- we can find some common ground here and republicans are quick to say yeah, let's follow the boehner thing. when you look at what boehner is saying about how to avoid the fiscal cliff he's not saying we're going to agree with president obama on anything yet right? >> not yet. at least publicly, he's just reheating the old romney proposal which is if you close deductions, that's where you get your revenue. not from letting the high end tax cuts expire. the high-end tax cuts expire. what obama had been campaigning on and what voters want overwhelmingly. so you know, the administration has actually been fairly optimistic about where boehner is and negotiating with boehner and negotiating maybe with some of the rank and file who are more likely to come to an agreement. maybe go into the senate. and doing this very publicly. they're meeting with a lot of groups with labor groups, with business groups and they've
to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the john boehner approach which is boehner saying i'll agree to revenues as long as they come as a result of economic growth. in other words, we won't legislate changes in taxes. we'll hope that revenues go up. he's saying no, that won't work for me. you're not going to legislate spending cuts. this is the president talking. not legislate revenue changes as well. >> bill: all right. so there are -- the most immediate decision maybe facing the congress is that as you point out, all of the bush tax cuts expire. which means not only the taxes -- tax cuts for the wealthy expire, the tax cuts for those making under $250,000 a year expire as well. so the president said friday all right, the senate has already passed a bill which would give extended tax cutless for the 98%, those making under $250,000. but let the ones for the wealthier people and defined as over $250,000 expire. and he challenged the house of representatives to pass that. what do you think -- so this is a real -- to
heard. i think a lot of conservative policies wonks hope this is the sort of thing that speaker boehner will glom on to, and that obama will say look, it's not my preferred way to get 1 trillion from wealthy americans but it does get me there. it doesn't have a huge impact on the middle class and can avoid a big fight and gives up on the rate increases. i don't think obama is going to give up on the rate increases that easily because they have been so central to his--both of his political campaigns as president even though you know at the end of the day he would end up at the same revenue baseline that he's looking for. it would appear to his base he's supporters like a pretty big cave. >> eliot: i think you're right. after the strength of his commentary and since the election where increasing rates has become the mantra, the line in the sand that people expect him to toe and stay very strict on. anything that backs off from that would require extensive preparation and conversation with his base. i'm not sure he's preparing the base for that right now. added to what we're talking about
bipartisan spirit. [ mumbling like boehner ] >> stephanie: we're going to make job creation more difficult. really? you're just going to continue with the same talking point? the job rates. >> the job creators-- [ mumbling ] >> stephanie: weren't those tax cuts supposed to expire two years ago? >> stephanie: yes, yes. >> that's too quick for them. >> stephanie: well yeah the president obviously gave in the last time. he said at the time this was an one-time thing. and as you recall he did it at the time because he was--it was over, you know, unemployment. you remember, it was right before christmas and they were going to cut off yeah, any way. economists from both parties say that a return to the recession is likely unless they compromise on the legislation. obama said everybody's taxes will go up including those who when make make less, and as an alternative. i don't know why they don't do this. he suggested paying legislation immediately to pre-event tax hike on everybody's income. >> that would make sense. >> stephanie: a measure that has already passed the senate. and he said we should
role here because this is the land of the lane. house speaker john boehner has said it himself. this is the law of the land. this is the next big step. if perry and walker don't do t then the federal will do it for them. >> jennifer: this seems to me these republican governors are all about state rights would want to set up this exchange because it allows them to be these states and republican governors in charge and not the hated federal government. why are they fighting? >> they're putting ideology and partisan politics over the benefits of consumers. the great fallacy here is that obama-care is a government takeover of your healthcare. the government will come into your life and control your care. but these exchanges are private insurers they're giving you option. it is a marketplace and a private marketplace for to you pick out the best options amist amidst these horrible ones. it's really partisan talking points no more, no less. >> jennifer: earlier this year chris christie vetoed the bill but since that time the new jersey legislature passed a similar bill, and it's back
to be a challenge to put it mildly. the entire house g.o.p. leadership team, john boehner eric cantor, kevin mccarthy and all of the rest, all of them signed a pledge opposing any climate legislation that raises tax revenue. that so-called no climate tax pledge, that tax pledge is backed by the tea party group americans for prosperity and guess who funds americans for prosperity? yep, the billionaire koch brothers who made their fortune from oil pipelines and refineries. and who, of course, along with other oil and coal lobbying groups spent $270 million on ads attacking the president this election. here's the good news though. that pledge opposing any climate legislation that raises taxes probably won't have much of an impact because the president has not even proposed a carbon tax. so there may be still hope. if congressional republicans continue to drag their feet though, we might see a lot more action on clean energy at the state level this term. joining me now to talk about creating a clean energy agenda at the state level is
boehner wants a temporary deal that extends all the bush tax cuts and buys more time. democrats don't want to extend attach cuts at all even temporarily. we know going over the cliff would throw us into a recession but experts say if it's reversed within a couple weeks it wouldn't be catastrophic. if the two sides cut a deal referred to as the grand bargain, it's preferable in theory, but with democrats and republicans so far apart, it is unclear what we might have to sacrifice in order to get that bargain. third, the two sides could negotiate around the issue of taxes. this is a little more complicated, unclear how it might work. there would be some sort of trade-off and it seems unlikely. the fourth possible scenario, create a patch to get us through the start of the year, which is a short term extension of the status quo something republicans would like, because it extends the bush tax cuts. president obama did that once in 2010 and is not willing to do it again. finally, we could procrastinate with a little down payment sending the message we will get to it. it would be a small package
to make john boehner's life easier. you know, if ever--you know, you keep seeing this clip of george bush talking about all the political capital he has gained, right? this is the second electoral landslides. >> caller: the first thing that george bush did with that political capital was to privatize social security. that was the beginning of the end. that's when his second term got broken along before all the bad stuff happened. >> stephanie: you talk about this a lot, too, what happens on the sunday shows. >> caller: i took this week off by the way. >> stephanie: i don't know if you saw this, but this is what drives you and i crazy not just about the democratic party but mainstream media. this is the question that was asked of schumer. >> would you like to see the president bring him in for the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> caller: shoot me now. >> stephanie: really? >> caller: why? >> stephanie: really the guy that just lost by a landslide. >> caller: first of all, if you were hiring the guy why would you hire the guy? why would you bring aboard the guy whose economic plan was
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